How to Get Yourself Added to this List
I frequently get messages along the lines of, "I'm a woman in Kalamazoo who wrestles men, how do I get added to your site?" The basic answer is: send me an e-mail message giving me the information I need and asking to be included on the list. E-mail me at: email@example.com
Direct Contact Policy: My policy now is that a woman must contact me directly herself by e-mail to get listed on wb270.com In the past I have allowed others to contact me on the behalf of women, and give me a phone number only for the woman. I will no longer do that, since those cases have proved problematic. A woman who wants to be on this list, must have access to e-mail, and must e-mail me herself. I make one exception: I will occasionally allow agents who actually book sessions for women to continue to list the women they work with, but women who book their own sessions must ask me directly to be listed. If you don't have Internet access, get it. Use a PC in the library if you must, or use a friend's computer, get a free Yahoo, AOL or similar e-mail account, and send me the information I ask for here by e-mail. I will respond to your e-mail with any questions I have or problems I see. I do not require that you offer an e-mail contact point for clients, use a phone if you wish (although in this era, if you are working strictly by phone, you are missing a lot). But you have to talk to me by e-mail, and you have to respond to e-mails that I send you to be listed. And in this day and age, if you are doing sessions and don't have e-mail, what are you thinking about? Are you really in business at all? This is a web site, the men who use it expect to communicate by e-mail.
I'm also emphatically not interested in dealing with or
through wrestling impressarios who manage or want to manage a stable of
women wrestlers in one way or another. I've done that in the
past, and I will continue to list a few agenices that I have worked
with for some while, but if you're trying to start a new service or
agency, or wrestling "federation" with a bunch of women that you
represent or book for, then look somewhere else to publicize your
service or them. If a woman who works with or does sessions for
one of these agencies, federations, dungeon or whatever, then you can
contact me directly, and I'll deal with you directly, as long as you
can be contacted dirctly by e-mail.
to be Listed: There is no charge to be on this
list. That has some
I get to say whatever and whoever is listed, and I make no guarantees
how long it will take to get things posted (although, in general, this
site gets updated more often and is kept more current than nearly any
site on the subject of mixed wrestling). I get backed up at times and
it can take several weeks to get listed initially. I make no
claim to be completely
fair and objective; while I will list just about anybody who asks, and
who seriously does some kind of wrestling, matral arts, boxing or
amount of space and the general tenor of what I say depends on the
I have. Women who have paid me a lot
of attention, one way or the other, probably get more attention on the
than some of those who haven't. I'm human, subject to flattery,
the attentions of attractive women.
I list women who live just about anywhere in the world, who
are available to do something related to some sort
of wrestling, boxing or some martial art with men. My basic
policy has been to include any woman who
does some kind of mixed wrestling, boxing or martial arts sessions, who
be on the list, and who sems to me to meet some minimum standard of
"interest," where interest is a subjective term. In
general, the stronger, more athletic, more beautiful, the more likely
it is that you can overpower many men, and the more intelligent you are
the more interesting I'm likely to find you. I will not advertise
what seems to me
I used to be somewhat more liberal, listing almost any girl
who wanted on the list, whatever she did. I now just don't have
time to list every woman who wants me to list her. I'm now
trying to be selective and confine myself to adding women
who interest me, that is who genuinely do wrestle, box or do strength
sessions, such as lift & cary sessions with men, and I'm going to
avoid adding new women who appear to me to be primarily escorts, or who
only do scissors sessions or only put compliant men in holds and that
general sort of thing. In short if you want to be listed, you're
going to have to convince me that you're an athlete, not (just) an
escort who will pretend to wrestle with a man who makes no
resistance. I realize that all many men want is a sort of a
pretend session with a pretty girl, but I'm trying to keep the list
focused on women who do something physically impressive with men, such
a wrestling, boxing, martial arts, lift & carry, other feats of
strength, etc. I also realize that some very powerful women have
no interest in anything approaching a truly competiitve session, and
only want to do sessions with men who either cannot or do not make any
effective resistance, and I'm OK with that, if the woman is jsut
stronger or more skilled than most men. I'm not saying that you
have to do competitive sessions to be on the list, but I'm not much
interested in woman an "average" man can easily overpower.
I'm also going to refuse to add body
builders who only do posing and muscle worship. I also tend to be
suspicious of many women who bill themselves a dominatrixes, but
apparently take only passive non-resisting clients. On the other
hand there are some dommes who are terrific wrestlers. At any
rate to get listed you will have to convince me that you are a genuine
athlete of some sort, and do something related to strength or some sort
of wrestling, boxing or some martial art. Beating up or squeezing
only passive men or ball busting doesn't count.
Talking to WB270: I don't give out my phone number, however if you want me to call you, send me your number and give me an indication of when is a good time to call. It may take a while but I'll give you a call, at least if you are in the USA or Canada.
picture site: This is primarily a text site, not a picture
site. The reason is
straightforward: I'm dealing in information more than pictures;
pictures are bandwidth intensive. Morover my deal with Diana the
Valkyrie, who now is my ISP and hosts this site, is that I don't
compete with her photo galleries. If you're a new girl starting
out, I am willing to post a picture on this site, to
help you get started, and I have a few pictures of a number of women,
but this site is not a substitute for your own homepage. If I already
have a picture of you on the site, I won't put a very high priority on
changing it, although some women want me to post new photos for them
all the time. Don't expect me to change your pictures every year; you
may think that you've changed, but usually not that much. If you want frequent
picture changes, get your own web site and I'll link to it.
I think of this as a "PG-13" site. I'm OK with topless
pics, generally, but not with full, frontal nudity, and not with any
explicitly sexual photos, crotch shots and the like.
Privacy: Think twice or three times about what you
ask me to post for you, and it's implications for your privacy.
Don't give me your real name to list, unless you're sure you're
comfortable with it. Remember that search engines are very
powerful tools, and I sometimes can correlate information women give me
to determine a lot about you, including sometimes your real name, your
address, your phone number, your job, your school, even your major,
through Google. Before you give me a phone number or an e-mail
that you use in any other context, Google it and see what pops
up. Don't give me photos to post, if they could embarrass
you. If you're a body builder with a contest history, and you
post pictures, people will recognize you. If you're a pro FBB,
and even post that fact and very much about yourself at all people will
identify you even without a picture. Will your wrestling coach,
your sensei, your lifting coach, your agent, or anybody who matters to
you freak out if they find out that you're on my list? Will your
ex use it against it in a custody battle (or more likely use it as a
lever in negotiating support payments)? I try to let women know
that it's easy to figure out who they are, but I don't always
anticipate when it will be an issue.
Whatever you do, don't send me a picture of some other woman to post as your picture! I almost guarantee you that you will be detected, probably very soon. I will get angry messages about it, that will make me angry, and I will kick you off the list. Several women have done this, and they were detected in days. Some men who apparently have no life seem to do almost nothing but look at pictures of muscular women on the web and they will recognize what you thought were the totally obscure pictures of some woman you thought looked enough like you to be OK. They will tell me who the person really is and even where and when the picture was taken. I will kick you off the list and you will then give me some sob story about a stalker, or how you live in a small town and it would ruin your high standing in the community if anybody actually saw a picture of you and learned you do sessions. All that may be true, but I don't care. It's not honest to use somebody else's picture as your own, and I'm basically not sympathetic. You don't have to post a picture, but if you do post one it really has to be you.
So if you want me to list you send me an e-mail message (or have somebody do it for you). The section below shows the format of a listing and the kinds of information I need for each part. You also can look at a few listings to see the kind of information I need.
Listing Format and Explanation
Information about the wrestler, including:
A summary, generally not more than 100 words or so, and often much less, that tell the reader things you want him to know. You may write this or I may, if I know something about you, and I reserve the right to edit whatever you write. Tell about your experience. For example, if you are a pro BB, or were a college athlete, hold a world bench press record, have been wrestling 12 years, or won the state Twae Kwon Do championship, tell the reader here. If you have rules or special things you do or don't do tell the reader here, for example, that you wrestle guys competitively only if they weigh less than 180 lb. If you're unusually beautiful or dance in clubs, say it here. If you have a good place to wrestle, a studio or other facility, be sure and say it here. (note 5)
Links to information about the wrestler, including:
These come from men who have done sessions with you, and I usually abstract a couple of sentences from the reports I get from men, or sometimes more. I usually limit the reviews to a half dozen per woman and may not use new reviews that basically repeat what I already have. I want 100 words or less. I usually either shorten longer reviews or never use them. Occasionally I also include longer, detailed reviews, if they are very, very well written, and put a link to it on a separate page. These have to be well written and I have to trust the reviewer. It's OK to encourage your clients so send in reviews, but I have become skeptical that some women were writing their own reviews then sending them to me under an assumed name, and that's a no-no. I do reviews last, and often get as much as months behind in posting them, and probably never use at least half of the reviews that I get. (note 6)
|Note 1: This can be more than one
you regularly are available in more than one location, but not places
visit occasionally, or even regularly. For example if you live in
Newark, but go into Manhattan regularly for sessions, I'll list you
Newark and new York City. If you live in the Valley, but also do
outcall in LA, I'll list you in both places. But if you live in
IL and visit New York twice a year, I won't list you as located in New
Note 2: This site is for women who do some kind of mixed wrestling, boxing or martial art. Many of the women who do these things also do other things such as posing, muscle worship, lift & carry or domination. I won't list a woman unless she does some kind of mixed wrestling, boxing or martial arts, or at least some kind of strength sessions, however I will then then briefly list other services that she offers. While I will mention domination or role play, I don't want a long list of specialized B&D or S&M services. There are a few things that I won't list. I won't list "sleepers," because I think they're not safe. I won't list anything about topless, nudity, prostate massages, "full service" or the like. I won't list scat play, golden showers, CBT or that general sort of thing. For some rough definitions of terms like "competitive and semi-competitive" go here.
Note 3: Think about what ways you want to clients to contact you. The biggie is susually e-mail. If you list your personal phone, you may get a lot of calls, and some, perhaps many, will not be serious inquiries. If you don't have good e-mail service and check it regularly, why not? That will be the preferred way for many of the readers of this list to contact you - the people who do read this list generally do have e-mail.
Note 4: This is a website, and nearly
who uses it can send e-mail, so if you don't have an e-mail address,
not getting the most out of this list. But don't list an e-mail
you can only check once a month. And do not list an e-mail address that
you use for purposes other than sessions.
Note 5: If I've met you, or I have reports from my regular contributors on you, this affects what I say here. But I haven't met the vast majority of the women on the list. I can't afford the time to meet or do a session with more than a small fraction of the women on the list. However, if you are coming to the Washington, DC area and want to meet me - not necessarily to do a session but also to go over your listing or satisfy your curiosity, then I'll try to meet with you if I can, but I generally won't pay you for a session.
Note 6: I have wrestled some of
on the list. In those cases I comment directly on the women,
in the overall description, but also include reviews from others.
I don't write long reviews of the women I have wrestled, although I do
post some long reviews written by others. There are far more
on this list than I can wrestle myself.
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